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Nathan Holmes Descendants
by Rich Holmes

Nathan HOLMES

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Birth:	About 1766 in , -, Connecticut (see notes), USA ¹ ²
Death:	1 Mar 1850 in Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York, USA ¹ ²
Sex:	M
Father:	Samuel HOLMES b. 26 Jun 1722 in Plymouth, Essex, Massachusetts, American Colonies
Mother:	Lucretia BILL b. About 1727

Census: 1800 Montville, New London, Connecticut, USA ³

Census: 1810 Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA ⁴

Burial: Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York, USA ¹

Occupation: Farmer ²

Changed: 5 Jan 2003

Spouses & Children

Grace CHAPEL (Wife) b. About 1771

Children:
Jabez HOLMES b. 9 Nov 1795 in , -, Connecticut, USA Peter HOLMES b. Ca 1798 (See Notes) in , -, Connecticut, USA Daughter of Nathan HOLMES b. Bet 1790 and 1800 Daughter of Nathan HOLMES b. Bet 1794 and 1800 Daughter of Nathan HOLMES b. Bet 1794 and 1800 Hiram HOLMES b. 2 Aug 1804 in , -, Connecticut, USA Eunice HOLMES b. About 1806 in , -, Connecticut, USA Henry HOLMES b. 16 Aug 1809 in , -, Connecticut, USA Nathan HOLMES b. About 1811 in , Madison, New York, USA Hannah HOLMES b. About 1815

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20010-30010-00
21110-12010-00

RELATIONSHIP TO JABEZ HOLMES, PETER HOLMES, HIRAM HOLMES, EUNICE HOLMES, NATHAN HOLMES (YOUNGER), AND HANNAH SMITH (nп HOLMES?) OF HAMILTON, MADISON, NEW YORK AND HENRY HOLMES OF VERONA, ONEIDA, NEW YORK AND GREENFIELD CENTER, SARATOGA, NEW YORK IS PLAUSIBLE BUT NOT PROVED.

It seems likely that the Nathan HOLMES whose wife Grace (q.v.) is buried in Poolville, Town of Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA; the Nathan who was the father of Peter HOLMES (q.v.); and the Nathan who was son of Samuel HOLMES (q.v.) of North Parish New London (now Montville), New London, Connecticut, USA are all the same person but this is not yet proved.

The existence of three daughters born between 1790 and 1800 (at least two of them born after 1794) is inferred from the 1800 census for Montville, New London, Connecticut and the 1810 census for Hamilton, Madison, New York.

From the Peter Holmes genealogy. Comments in [brackets] are by RSH.

"John Holmes lived during the reign of King Charles II of England. [Charles II reigned from 1660-1685 -- several decades after John is claimed to have arrived in America. Was Charles I what was meant? He reigned 1625-1649. The monarch at the time of the founding of Plymouth was James I.] They came to America about 1622 on the second crossing of the Mayflower ship [The Mayflower never made a second crossing. That is, the Mayflowerthat brought the Pilgrims in 1620 never did. There were other ships of the same name, some of which did bring settlers to New England in later years. However, in the early 1620s the only ships that brought passengers to Plymouth were: Mayflower, 1620 Fortune, 1621 Anne and Little James, 1623. There was no one named John HOLMES, or any similar name, among the passengers on these ships.] from Holland where they had lived for several years because of the political upheaval in England. John Holmes became Captain of the Colony, two years after Miles Standish. [Miles Standish was hired by the Pilgrims as a military advisor. He served the colony in the areas of colonial defense and Indian relations, and from 1625-1627 as their representative in England. I'm not sure what "Captain of the Colony" means. The leader of the colony was the Governor. The first Governor of Plymouth was John Carver; after his death in April 1621, William Bradford became Governor and served in that office for 31 of the next 36 years.]

"John Holmes's family were wealthy, lived in Boston, [There were two British colonies in what is now the State of Massachusetts: Plymouth and Massachusetts. Plymouth was founded by what we now call the Pilgrims; they were members of a religious faction known as the Separatists, because they wanted to split away from the Church of England and form a new church. Massachusetts was founded by Puritans, who wanted to reform the Church of England from within. Boston was in Massachusetts, so if this statement is true, John's family must have moved from one colony to the other and, presumably, one religious faction to the other.] had the first embossed wallpaper from China. The Holmeses were owners of ships.

"Nathan Holmes, 1767-March 1850, a descendant of John Holmes, had three sons, Jabez, Peter and Henry. Peter, our ancestor, and Nathan are buried in Farmersville, Cattaraugus County, New York. Nathan, it is said, was taken prisoner by the British in the War of 1812, and put on a ship for England. Before it could reach England, the boat was captured by Americans, possibly John Paul Jones, and returned to America. [Jabez HOLMES of Hamilton, Madison, New York served at Sackett's Harbor in the war of 1812, but there seem to be no records of any Nathan HOLMES from New York also serving in that war.]

"Nathan moved his family from Boston down along the Connecticut River to Hartford, Conn. [The Connecticut River does not flow through, or anywhere near, Boston.] It is believed that Peter was born in Hartford. They later migrated to New York State with their oxen and carts, loaded with beautiful furniture, a grandfather's clock, plants, seeds, etc. Some rode horseback. The family settled in Hamilton, Madison Co., N.Y. where, it is said, the sons attended college. [The Baptist Education Society, the forerunner of Colgate University in Hamilton, opened in 1820.]

"It is said that Nathan's son Jabez with sons Jackson and Chauncy, and Henry, who had 2 daughters, Hannah who married a Smith and another daughter who married Eggleston. [sentence incomplete in original] They had one daughter, Lydia. The two sons and families migrated to California.

[The above garbled sentence was rewritten on p. 5 as follows: "It is said that Nathan's son Jabez had two sons -- Jackson and Chauncy. Also that Nathan's son Henry had two daughters, Hannah, who married a Smith, and the other married an Eggleston. She had a daughter -- Lydia. (not confirmed.)"]

"Peter's family moved on to Wyoming, New York, and finally to Farmersville, New York.

"The government was trying to settle the west, but was in need of money. After the War of 1812 the Holmeses were sold several thousand acres of land for a large sum of money by the government in Madison County and Cattaraugus County. Later they found the land to be worth only 8 dollars an acre.

"Peter Holmes's family arrived in Cattaraugus Co. about 1820-25. Others that came with the Holmeses were Richard Tozer, Peter and Cornelius Ten Broeck, the Robbins, Peets, and Caleb Cooley.

"Nathan stayed in Hamilton, Madison County. Many years later when he was old, and lost his eyesight, Peter went back to Hamilton and brought his father to Farmersville to stay with them. He was buried in Farmersville Cemetery in 1850. Part of his gravestone was still showing in 1980 beside that of Peter and Rachel.

"Peter Holmes married Rachel Stowell (from Vermont) born 1800. They had seven children... Peter was a maker of woodenware tools, and a farmer.

"The Holmeses were members of the Farmersville Community Church. Several Holmes families are still members of that church. They helped to build the new church in 1983, across from the old church. "

None of this is documented.

"A Nathan Holmes m. Grace Chapman, born in the 1770s". This is an error; the correct name is Grace CHAPELL.Hamilton, p. 201p. 244p. 480, cited in Margaret Stover , email to Richard S. Holmes, 23 Oct 2001.
From nearby entries in 1810 census:

O. Blackman
S. Percival
J. Torry
E. Denis[on]
J. Cady
N. Beacher
H. Beacher
R. Crane
A. Salsbury
N. HOLMES
W. Crain
J. Williams
L. Crane
S. Cross
E. Northrope
E. Colwell
S. Ray
M. Banning
J. Hatch
J. [Mc]da[n]ay
J. Stephens
W. Upham
S. Hubbard
E. Beach
N. Stacy

(BLACKMAN and HUBBARD are surnames among the early settlers of Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York along with Nathan HOLMES's son Peter. There is a D. HOLMES on p. 200.)
No Nathan HOLMES is found in the census for Hamilton, but in 1810 (when only first initials were recorded in Madison County) there is an N. HOLMES. A transcription of this census for Madison County identifies N. HOLMES as Nathan HOLMES.

In 1820, there is a Nathan HOLMES in the right age bracket in Paris, Oneida, New York. Tallies: 000001-00001; 001.Hamilton, p. 201
1767; place not specifically stated but it is said he moved from Boston, Massachusetts.
ae. 83 at death in 1850; Con.

Mary HOLMES daughter of Samuel HOLMES of New London is conjectured to be his sister; if she was, since she is said to have been born Oct. 15, 1767, it's very unlikely he was born in 1767 (unless he was Mary's twin). Then 1766 is likely to be correct.p. 41
1 Mar 1850, Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York.
Feb (1850), Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York.

Sources

Type: Book
Author: Hermia Hallauer Gordon
Title: Peter Holmes Genealogy, 1794-1980
Publication: privately published (Pompano Beach, Florida, 1985)
Media: photocopy provided Mar 1999 by Phillip Garr, 4690 N. DuBay Drive, Mosinee, WI 54455
Type: Census
Title: US census mortality schedule
Place: Cattaraugus County, New York
Date: 1850
Media: microfilm
Type: Census
Title: US census population schedule
Place: Connecticut
Date: 1800
Media: CD transcription
Text: Quoted in email from to Richard S. Holmes
, 30 Mar 1997.
Type: Census
Title: US census population schedule
Place: Madison County, New York
Date: 1810
Media: microfilm
Text: Hamilton, p. 201

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Nathan Holmes	of Ancestry
Nathan Holmes	of MyData.ftl
Nathan Holmes	of C:\PAFs\OURPAF.paf.ged

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