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Clarence Edwin HOLMES

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Birth:	18 Jan 1875 in South Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA ¹ ² ³ ⁴ ⁵ ⁶
Death:	21 May 1955 in Albany (Albany Hospital), Albany, New York, USA ⁴
Sex:	M
Father:	Jerome N. HOLMES b. 9 Oct 1834 in Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA
Mother:	Ruth Oliva COLLINS b. 26 Oct 1833 in South Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA

Reference: 4

Census: 1875 Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA ¹

Census: 1880 Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA ⁶

Census: 1920 Schodack, Rensselaer, New York, USA ⁷

Burial: 24 May 1955 Nassau (Nassau & Schodack Cemetery), Rensselaer, New York, USA ⁴ ⁸

Occupation: Telephone engineer, sales manager, heating engineer, railroad traffic manager ⁴ ⁹ ² ⁷

Religion: Society of Friends ²

Social Security Number: 009-09-9732 ⁴

Changed: 20 Dec 1999

Spouses & Children

Mary Alice BELDEN (Wife) b. 17 Feb 1877 in West Brookfield, Madison, New York, USA
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Marriage:	10 SEP 1896 in Eaton, Madison, New York, USA
Children:
Viola Mae HOLMES b. 3 Jul 1897 in Poolville, Madison, New York, USA Donald Guy HOLMES b. 31 Dec 1899 in South Hamilton, Madison, New York, USA Marian Ruth HOLMES b. 7 Nov 1901 in Brookfield, Madison, New York, USA Lynn Carroll HOLMES b. 10 Apr 1904 in Brookfield, Madison, New York, USA Roland Clyde HOLMES b. 12 Jan 1910 in Richfield Springs, Otsego, New York, USA Kenneth Owen HOLMES b. 4 Apr 1917 in Schodack Center, Rensselaer, New York, USA

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Individual:

Clarence HOLMES worked at a great variety of jobs in his lifetime, most notably as a telephone engineer and an oil burner salesman. He was able to work his way out of the great poverty of his childhood and the debts he and his family incurred, becoming in the end a successful middle-class businessman.

Member of the Board of Education of Nassau Union Free School District and active in the organization of the East Greenbush School District.
His daughter-in-law, Norma, recalled that he sometimes had a gruff manner and voice. Ken Holmes used to drive his father's car a lot, and gave rides to family and friends. Once, when Ken and Norma were first starting to see each other, she came along when he went to pick up Clarence, Vi, and Ruth. She was sitting in the back seat talking with Ruth when Clarence saw her and said to Ken, "Who in tarnation is that?" Norm sort of squeezed herself into the corner and Ruth said to her father, "Please! You're frightening the poor girl!" Another time - before or shortly after Lynn married Caroline - he upset Caroline so much at dinner she ran back to her own home.

From a "Round Robin" letter from C. E. H. during World War II

Springfield, Massachusetts
March 2, 1945

"When I see all the activities all you people are carrying on, with the sitting room full of clothes your mother is getting ready to send the Friends, I think my part is not very important but I have just bought some new type toilet seats that are more comfortable because they are molded to fit with 11 1/2" of bearing surface instead of the usual 7 3/4"."
1633 Broadway, Rensselaer, Rensselaer, New York at mother's death on Nov 23, 1914.

Address on Jun 25, 1915 was 1633 Broadway, Rensselaer, Rensselaer, New York.

Address on Jun 29, 1920 was East Greenbush Road.

Family settled in Nassau in 1921. Lived in house across Elm Street from where Ruth lived in 1960s-1970s.

Address at death was 41 Elm Street, Nassau, New York.

Lived in Nassau since 1921.Schodack, p. 8A, family #198"The Holmes Family"
Death date: 1955

Death place: Albany, Albany, New York

Cause of death: Acute coronary occlusion due to arteriosclerotic heart disease. Other significant conditions: Chronic [pyelo]nephritis.

Attending physician: Jesse T. Henderson, Jr.
Birth date: age 5 in 1880.
Age 4/12 in 1875.
Jan. 18, 1874.
Jan. 18, 1875
18 Jan 1875
Age 22 in Sept. 1896
Age 40 on Jun 25, 1915
Age 45 in 1920; b. New York.Hamilton, Family #141Hamilton, 2nd dist., Family #84p. 117p. 240
Retired in 1950 from his position as sales manager for the oil burner division of the Charles Miller Company of Utica. A former freight-passenger agent for the old Albany-Southern Railroad.
Member of the Religious Society of Friends and active in affairs of the Grace Methodist Church.
Marriage place: Eaton, Madison, New York
Hamilton, Madison, New York

Sept. 13, 1896.

Marriage clergyman: Judson Davis (name given as Jackson Davis in transcript of marriage record). Mr. Davis was a resident of Eaton for more than 25 years and pastor there part of the time. He died one week after marrying Clarence and Alice!p. 240p. 49

Sources

Type: Census
Title: New York State census population schedule
Place: Madison County, part 1
Date: 1875
Media: microfilm #0408497
Text: Hamilton, 2nd dist., Family #84
Type: Book
Author: Ervine Denison York
Title: The York Book, Origin of Name & English Families; Their History, Heraldry & Genealogy; American Descendants; The History & First Location of Numerous Branches of the Family in America
Publication: Guardian Press (Hillcrest Manor, Button Falls Road, West Edmeston, NY, ca. 1990)
Text: "Duplicate of revise of 1908" actually contains some informatio
n as late as 1916. (Pages filed at HOLMES NY-27 are copied from earlier edition and contain additional information labelled as being from "Gray Book". This copy was sent to Roland Holmes apparently by Colby Thompson May 4, 1989, who may have supplied the added information.)Text: p. 117
Type: Book
Author: George Knapp Collins
Title: Descendants of John Collins, of Charlestown, R. I., and Susannah Daggett, His Wife
Publication: Gazette Print (Baldwinsville, NY, 1901)
Text: p. 38
Type: Vital Record
Title: Death certificate for Clarence E. Holmes
Date: May 24, 1955
Place: Albany, Albany, New York
Type: Book
Author: Clarence E. Holmes
Title: Reminiscences of Previous Years
Publication: published privately
Text: Written ca. 1950-1955.
Text: p. 1
Type: Census
Title: US census population schedule
Place: Madison County, New York, part 2
Date: 1880
Media: microfilm #1254860
Text: Hamilton, Family #141
Type: Census
Title: US census population schedule
Place: Rensselaer County, New York
Date: 1920
Media: microfilm
Text: Schodack, p. 8A, family #198
Type: Cemetery
Title: Nassau & Schodack Cemetery
Place: Nassau, New York
Title: "Personal History Statement" for Kenneth Owen Holmes
Date: Sep 7, 1948
Text: This was a government form of some sort.
Text: Vital Records Index, Sep 10, 1892, Certificate No. 16785, New Yo
rk State Archives, Cultural Education Center Room 11D40, Albany, NY 12230. (HOLMES NY-)
Type: Vital Record
Title: Marriage Certificate for Clarence Holmes and Alice M. Belden
Date: Sep 10, 1896
Place: Eaton, NY

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