Title: Notes
Text:
According to information found on rootsweb.com dated 11/12/04.
Tobias served in the Revolutionary War according to `Alabama Soldiers, Volume 13, page
27.' Service: According to statements made by this veteran when he applied for pension in
1832, he served as Private in the North Carolina Militia on the following tours: From
March 1780 under Captain William Hall and Col. William Kenan; from September or
October 1781, 2 months under Captain William Ferrell and Colonel Thomas Clinch; from
October or November, 1781, 3 months under Captain John Taylor and Colonel Blount;
from sometime in February 1782, 6 months under Captain Coleman. He was in "a battle
with the British & Tories" at Rockfish Creek near Wilmington and in several skirmishes.
Pension: Pension and Certificate No. 16316 was issued July 30,1833 to Tobias Honea,
rate $40 per annum, Act of June 7 1832 Georgia Agency.
-More information is on this document relating to wife, who he was living with at time of
death, place of birth, date of birth and where he had been living since the war, including
SC, AL and GA.
Subj: Tobias Honea
Date: 1/24/00
From: lhsilva@starpower.net (Louise Silva)
To: hkees@aol.com
Holly,
RE: your posting in the Honea fourm. There is a reference to Tobias
Honea in the History of Meriwether Co - Page 376. "Meriwether Inferior
Court Records show that ... Tobias Honea ... Made affadavit before Wiley
B. Ector, Inferior Court Justice, to obtain benefit of the provision
made (for Pensions) by the Act of Congress, June 7, 1832". (footnote -
Meriwether County Inferior Court Records, sales of lots and map of the
town of Greenville 1828-1857. pp 25-45).
Name Rank Service When placed Age on pension roll
Tobias Honea Pvt N.Car.Mil July 30, 1833 72
Louise Silva
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TOBIAS HONEA
MERRIWETHER COUNTY
PRIVATE
NORTH CAROLINA MILITIA
$40.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE
$120.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED
JULY 30, 1833 PENSION STARTED
AGE 72
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Tobias Honea
Revolutionary Pension record number S.31761
A Certificate of Pension was issued the 30th day of July 1832 in Greensboro
GA. He was to receive $40.00 per year.
A letter dated 5 November 1832, Meriwether Co. GA, stated that Tobias Honea
was born 25 April 1762 in Nash County, NC where he was raised and lived until
after the Revolution. He entered the Militia Infantry as a volunteer in 1780
and had 4 terms of service totaling 14 months, being discharged for the final
time in August 1782. After the Revolution he removed from NC to Pendleton
District SC where he lived 18 or 19 years. Removed then to Gwinnett County,
GA, then to Dekalb Co., then to Carroll Co., and then to where he now lives in
Meriwether Co., GA. Also in this 4 page letter is a history of his military
service.
On the 11th of June 1833 another letter is recorded which states he came to
this new county of Meriwether March 1829 from DeKalb Co. GA which is 5 miles
from his present residence. The letter explained the reason he did not have a
Clergyman as a witness was that he has lived there only 5 years and resides in
a remote, sparsely settled part of the county .
Transfer of pension letters:
13 March 1838, transfers pension from GA to Benton Co. AL, stating the reason
for the move was that his children have all removed to this state and he will
live with them.
17 April 1838, from the War Department Pension Office, transfer from the Roll
of Georgia to that of Decatur, AL
8 January 1839, a letter from the Treasury Dept. stating that the pension was
paid at the Huntsville, AL Agency.
14 September 1840, a letter requesting a change from Decatur, AL to Meriwether
Co. GA, where he expects to permanently reside.
11 October 1840, a letter to Washington City, there is a request for the
pension payment to be transferred to the Georgia Agency.
21 July 1841, letter from the Comptrollers Office states that the pension of
$40.00 has been paid to the widow of Tobias Honea, a pensioner on the roll of
the Georgia Agency.
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American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)
http://www.ancestry.com
Honey, Tobias
Birth:1763?
Birthplace:Alabama
Biographical Information: Rev. War
Reference:Census of pensioners for Rev. military serivces. Washington, DC. 1841.
(195p.):148
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Name: Tobias Honey
Age: 78
Res: Calhoun (then Benton) county
Comment: June 1, 1840, with Abel Brooks.--Census of Pensioners, 1841, p. 148
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Notes from Brenton Bailey:
'In the Pendleton District South Carolina Deeds 1790-1806 Tobias' is mentioned on page
349: as a witness, with Henry Green, of Betty Honey releasing Dower to William
Anderson. Oaths given to Sam Houston, J.P. January , 1804.
on page 356: as selling land on Big Creek of Saluda River for $100 to John Green on
November 14, 1804. William, Abner, George, Sarah, Thomas and
Heads of Families NC at the First U.S. Census 1790 lists Tobias Honey on page 88 as
having 1 male over 16, 1 male under 16, 3 females, Hillsborough District, Chatham
County. Abner pg 39, Elias pg 36, & Thomas pg 37 Honey's also listed.
I have found in other peoples records that Abner Sr. (born 1756 in NC) was the father
almost all of the SC Honeas of the late 1700's except Tobias. I cannot tie Tobias to Abner
who I think are brothers or 1st cousins, except by association.
I have found other Honey's in North Carolina in Edgecombe & Nash Counties (Nash was
made from 1/2 of Edgecombe County). The earliest is Thomas listed as a witness to a land
sale 11-14-1743. Another in 1753 shows Thmas & John (brothers I think) as chainbearers
on the survey of land for a piece of land. These two mean might be Tobias & Abner's
fathers or father & uncle as the christian name "Thomas" is very prevelant in the family.
Thomas shows up again in 1756 buying land with John Honey as witness. More show
Thomas Honey selling land to William Honey in 1767, land granted thomas in 1760.
Another shows Thomas Honey, Sr. buying land 9-19-1760 with Thomas Honey, Jr. being
a chainman.
I have found several Honeas arriving in the South pre-1760. Using the "Passenger &
Immigration Lists Index". I found: James Honey arrived Virginia 1704/John Oney (alias
Honey) sent from England on the convict ship `Supply' in 1726 to Annapolis, MA/John
Honey arrived VA 1741/Joseph Honey in April 1742 to Prince George Co., MA/Samuel
Oney arrived Oct 1729@Annapolis, MA/George Honey arrived MA 1753.
I have found the surnames Hone, Honey & Hovey in Virginia in 1700's. The first is
Captain Theopolis Hone evidently a early Jamestown settler around 1620. Theo shows
again in 1667 in a land title search. Again with his daughter. The other places I have found
these surnames are in patents for land given by the crown or state to persons who took in
the newly indentured servants (Poor people or convicts). You took so many people, you
got so much land. Theo. Hone, Jr. and Thomas Hone get 1472 acres for 15 people. The
last two don't make sense but the dates are right. James Hovey & Margaret Hovey (the
late Margaret Dixon) gets 600 acres for 12 person 10-23-1703. The next year 10-23-
1704, William aylett recieves 1000 acres for 20 people among them James Hovey
(Honey).
I have also found Honea's, Mahoney BeHoney's, Honey's in Massachusetts going back to
the early 1600's then to King Edward "Longshanks" of England. I have found 2 Honey's in
the Virginia Census of 1790 (1782 Reconstructed) James & William. I found Honey's
listed as fighting for the Tories in the Revolutionary War.
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1790 census North Carolina
Chatham County Hillsborough District
1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families
2nd # free white males under 16 years
3rd # free white females and head of families
4th # all other free persons
5th # slaves
This census is from Microcopy No. T-498 Roll 2
Honey, Blas.............................1-1-3-0-0
1 male head of houehold
1 male under 16
3 females
According to this census: Tobias and Mary have three children
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'Index to the 1800 Census of SC' by Brent H. Holcomb lists 5 Honey's as heads of
households in the Pendelton District:
Abner, Abner, Thomas, Tobias & William.
1800 Pendleton Co South Carolina Census
page 57
# 868 Tobias Honey
2 males under 10
1 male 26-45
3 females under 10
2 females 10-16
1 female 26-45
# 873 Thomas Honey
1 male 16-26
1 female under 5
1 female 16-26
# 897 William Honey
1 male 45 & up
1 female 45 & up
page 22
# 179 Abner Honey
2 males under 10
1 male 10-16
1 male 26-45
3 males 45 & up
1 female under 10
1 female 26-45
#180 Abner Honey
2 males under 10
1 male 16-26
1 male 26-45
2 males 45 & up
1 female 16-26
1 female 45 & up
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1810 Pendleton District South Carolina Census
Tobias Honey
page 142
2 males under 10
1 male 10-15
1 male 45 & up
2 females under 10
1 female 10-15
2 females 16-26
1 female 26-45
note from Holli Boone Kees: shows to have 8 children born before 1810, names as follows
according to birth years:
2 males under 10--Has to Thomas and another son whose name is unknown
1 male 10-15 has to be either John or William
1 male 45 & up this is Tobias
2 females under 10 Lydia and Mary
1 female 10-15 unnamed daughter
2 females 16-26 unnamed daughters
1 female 26-45 his wife Mary
This puts a couple of children missing: Either John or William and another unnamed Son
who should have been in their own households at this time according to their age.
Also listed on this census in the same county were:
Abner pg 144
Abel pg 146
Abner pg 146
Mary pg 146
Thomas pg 162
William pg 163
Abner pg 163
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1820 Gwinnett Co., Ga. Census
M33-8
Page 263 Line 29
Honey, Byos
1 male age 10-16
1 male age 16-26
1 male age 45-up
1 female age 10-16
1 female age 16-26
1 female age 26-45
1 female 45-up
# in Agriculture 3
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*Missing 1830 Census for Tobias
His son Thomas shows in the 1830 Meriwether Co., Georgia as having a male 60 to 70
years old living
within the household...no signs of Mary, wife of Tobias on the census.
1830 Meriwether Co., Georgia Census
page 161
Thomas Honey
1 male under 5
1 male 10-15
1 male 20-30
1 male 60-70
1 female 30-40
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In the 1840 census in Benton (now Calhoun Co) Alabama a Honea family which includes
Tobias Honea/Honey, Revolutionary Soldier, is living next door to a James George who
has a young family and also David George who has a young family.
1840 Benton Co., Alabama Census
Brooks, Abel page 024
1 male 5-10 years old
1 male 30-40 years old (Abel Brooks)
1 male 70-80 years old (Tobias Honey)
2 females under 5
2 females 5-10 years old
3 females 10-15 years old
1 female 30-40 years old (Mary Honey Brooks)
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