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Robert Marmion, of Scrivelsby & Tamworth1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 5 8 9 10
Birth:BEF 1095 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England 13 5 8 9 10
Death:8 SEP 1143 in Coventry, Warwickshire, England (slain) 14 15 5 8 9 10
Sex:M
Father:Robert Marmion, of Scrivelsby & Tamworth b. BEF 1133 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Mother:Millicent de Stanton de Rethel b. ABT 1116 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France
  

Spouses & Children
(Unknown)
Children: 
 
(Unknown) b. ABT 1116 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France
Marriage: 1st husband 11 12 5
Children: 
  1. Descendants b. BEF 1133 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
 

Notes
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ROBERT MARMION, son and heir. All the land of Roger his grandfather and Robert his father was restored to him by Stephen. In 1155 he obtained from Henry ll a charter of freewarren in Warwickshire, especially at Tamworth, as his ancestors had had it in the time of Henry I, and after 1170 he had from King Henry-i.e. the eldest son of Henry II-a charter of free warren in all his land of Lindsey. In 1166 he was holding over 16 knights' fees. He granted Avon and Ditchampton, Wilts, and the honour of Llanstephan, co. Carmarthen, which had belonged to Roger his grandfather, to his uncle Geoffrey, in exchange for the latter's right in Winteringliam and Scrivelsby, co. Lincoln, and in the fee of Manasser Marmion. He granted the church of Checkenden, co. Oxford, to Coventry Priory, circa I170-75, in satisfaction of the injuries done to that house by his father; and, circa 1175-80, he granted a third part of Checkenden to Geoffrey Marmion, whose relationship is not specified. He began the foundation of Barbery Abbey in Normandy.
He is said to have married Elizabeth, whose parentage is unknown. He died in or before October 1181. [Completed Peerage VIII:508-9, XIV:468, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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ROBERT MARMION (b), son of Roger MARMION (c), which Roger at the time of the Lindsey Survey, circa 1115-18, held land in Lincolnshire (d), rendered an account of 176£ 13s. 4d. for relief on his father's lands, of which 60£ had been paid by Michaelmas 1130. He was granted by Henry I, circa 1129-33, free warren in Warwickshire as his father had it, especially at Tamworth. With his wife Milicent he granted the church of Polesworth and other property to the nuns there, and the vill of Buteyate to Bardney Abbey. In 1140 Geoffrey, Earl of Anjou, besieged and destroyed his castle of Fontenay. A prominent figure in the anarchy of Stephen's reign, he evicted the monks of Coventry and profaned their church.
He married Milicent, daughter of Hugh, Count of Rethel. He died in 1143 or 1144, being slain in warfare with the Earl of Chester. His widow married Richard DE CANVILLE or CAMVILLE. [Complete Peerage VIII:505-8, XIV:467]
(b) The family of Marmion was of Norman origin, its chief property lying at Fontenay-le-Marmion in the département of Calvados. There are few families whose origin has given rise to more erroneous speculation. Of all the myths which have encumbered this family perhaps the most glaring and persistent has been that which makes William the Conqueror confer the castle of Tamworth on Robert Marmion, the "Champion of Normandy," to hold by the service of Champion in England.
(c) THIS TEXT IS INCLUDED IN GRANDFATHER ROBERT MARMION'S NOTES.
(d) The places named include Winteringham, Willingham, Scrivelsby, and Coningsby; much of the land was held in chief, and much of it had belonged to Robert Dispensator at the time of Domesday. The connection between Roger Marmion and Robert Dispensator is a complex problem. As the latter had also held Tamworth (as is clear from a charter of the Empress Maud to William de Beauchamp printed in Round, 'Geoffrey de Mandeville', p. 314) and property in other counties afterwards held by the Marmion family, it has been suggested that Roger Marmion acquired the Dispensator's lands from him either by inheritance or marriage. With a view to support the theory of inheritance, it has even been urged that the word Dispensator and the name Marmion were equivalent - an assertion in which there is no truth whatever. The more likely theory that Roger married Robert Dispensator's daughter is shaken by the discovery of J. H. Round that to the Lincolnshire fee of the Dispensator, his brother Urse d'Abetot succeeded, suggesting the probable solution that Roger Marmion acquired his lands through Urse. In the Worcestershire survey, circa 1108-18, and in the Leicestershire survey, circa 1124-29, a Robert Marmion and Walter de Beauchamp occur jointly as successors of Robert Dispensator. This Robert Marmion may have been Roger's son, acquiring these lands in his father's lifetime; and it is not improbable that Roger had married a daughter of Urse. The succession Roger, Robert, Robert is clear from a charter granted to the second Robert by King Stephen. Roger may be the Roger Marmion who was one of Henry I's justiciars in Normandy.

Sources
  1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
    Page: 246a-26

  2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
    Page: VIII:508-9

  3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
    Page: IX:258
    Source Text: father of Mabel

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  11. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
    Page: 246a-25

  12. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
    Page: VIII:505-8

  13. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
    Page: 246a-25
    Source Text: bet 1090-1095

  14. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
    Page: 246a-25
    Source Text: 1143 or 1144

  15. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
    Page: VIII:505-8
    Source Text: 1143/4

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