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Alan of Galloway, named in the Magna Charta, 1215, Constable of Scotland, 1215-1234, Lord o f Galloway, d. 1234; m. (1) N.N., daughter or sister of Roger de Lacy, of Pontefract, Constable of Chester (Tr. Dumfrieshire and Galloway Natural History Society 49: 49-55); m. (2) 1209, Margaret de Huntingdon, daughter of David of Huntingdon (son of Henry of Huntingdon and grandson of David I "The Saint", King of Scots) and Maud of Chester (SP IV, 138-143). [Magna Charta Sureties, line 139-1] Note: MCS has Helen dau by 1st wife. NOTE: As far as Alan's wives, I am going with the post by Douglas Richardson, included in the e-mail by Curt Hofemann copied below. It fairly well agrees with the above by MCS, except that Douglas gives a 3rd wife (daughter of Hugh de Lacy). See further notes under 1st wife, Alice de Lacy. --------------------------- Alan, Lord of Galloway, named in the Magna Charta, Constable of Scotland, 1215-1234, d. 1234; m. (1) a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster (died 1243) by his first wife, Lesceline, daughter of Bertram de Verdun (Orpen, Ireland under the Normans III chart, p. 286) or daughter or sister of Roger de Lacy of Pontefract (Trans. of the Dumfrieshire & Galloway Nat. Hist. Soc., 49:49-55); m. (2) 1209, Margaret of Huntingdon. [Ancestral Roots, line 38-26] Note: AR has Helen as daughter by 1st wife. Note: CP, in its article on Hugh de Lacy, states that he had no issue by his 2nd wife, but does not say that about his 1st wife (leaving open the possibility of issue by his 1st marriage). In CP's article on Roger de Quincy, CP states that Helen is a daughter by Alan's 1st wife, without indicating anything about her identity. --------------------------- The following was given in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com: Buried: Abbey of Dundren, Kirkcudbright, Scotland [Ref: Robert C. Bradley http://www.bradleygenealogy.info/nindex.htm#sx] Dundrennan [Ref: "Peerage of Scotland" by John Philip Wood, Edinburgh, 1813, v 1, pp. 612-13] "Alan, Lord of Galloway, died 1233, buried at Dundrennan. By his first wife, whose name is not known, he had a daughter Helen, married to Roger de Quincy [d. 28 April 1264]. . . He married secondly at Dundee in 1209 Margaret, eldest daughter of David, Earl of Huntingdon, brother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, by whom he had two daughters: 1. Dervegulde. 2. Christian, died without issue 1246. He married thirdly in 1228 a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, without issue." [Ref: "Peerage of Scotland" by John Philip Wood, Edinburgh, 1813, v 1, pp. 612-13] Alan married a sister of John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and future Earl of Lincoln, Margaret, daughter of Earl David of Huntingdon, and Rose, daughter of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster. [Ref: "Essays of the Nobility of Medieval Scotland" K.J. Stringer ed., Edinburgh, 1985, p 49] He married NN FitzRichard the daughter of John FitzRichard and Alice de Vere. [Ref: Dave UTZ AT aol.com message to Gen-Medieval 5 Jan 1999 citing Weis MC5 139-1] - Under notes for John FitzRichard is indicated "John [de Lacy] Constable of Chester. --- W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194, genealogical chart following p 260. Inherited the Barony of Halton and Constableship of Chester from his stepgrandfather." Research note: Stringer indicates she was the sister & Weis indicates daughter of John de Lacy. Is this a disagreement about identity of her father or did the 1st John de Lacy also have a son John?... Curt p. 59 "Alan held lands in Lothian, Cumbria (from where he imported tenants), Yorkshire, and the English east midlands; he also gained a title to large areas of eastern Ulster from King John, who was almost as much his lord as was William the Lion." p. 104: "Galloway . . . lost its regal status only slowly. Its ruler, Fergus, who died in 1161, was frequently called princeps, and once rex; he may, like Alexander I, have married an illegitimate daughter of Henry I. His successors abandoned the royal styles while retaining some regal attributes. . . .Alan son of Roland had an ease of manoeuvre and a range of contacts on either side of the Solway and the Irish Sea that marked him out as more than a baron of the king of Scots. It was only Alexander II's intervention upon his death in 1234, to exclude his bastard son and partition his lands between his daughters, that put a final end to Galloway's royal status; even then its identity survived in a distinctive law-code, whose tolerance of blood feud was offensive in the eyes of a conventional monarchy." [Ref: Political Development of the British Isles 1100-1400, by Robin Frame, Oxford, 1990] Below is from Douglas Richardson message to soc.genealogy.medieval 13 Sep 2002: ALAN FITZ ROLAND, lord of Galloway, hereditary Constable of Scotland, born in or before 1175 (adult by 1196). He married possibly in 1200 _____ OF CHESTER (descendant of Charlemagne), daughter of John [Fitz Richard] of Chester (died 1190), hereditary Constable of Chester, Baron of Pontefract, co. York, by Alice, daughter of Roger Fitz Richard, of Warkworth, co. Northumberland. She had as her maritagium the manor of Kippax, co. Yorkshire [see note below]. They had two daughters, Ellen and _____ (died 1213 in England - see below). He married (2nd) in 1209 MARGARET OF HUNTINGDON (descendant of Charlemagne), daughter of David of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon (6th and youngest son of Malcolm III, King of Scotland), by Maud, daughter of Hugh, 6th Earl of Chester. (Note: in a l14 Sep 2002 correction message Douglas Richardson stated: I incorrectly stated that Alan Fitz Roland's father-in-law, David, Earl of Huntingdon, was the son of King Malcolm III of Scotland. Earl David was actually King Malcolm's great-grandson.) Her maritagium probably included lands in Harringworth, co. Northampton. They had two daughters, Devorguille and Christian (wife of William de Forz, Count of Aumale). In 1212 King John requested him to send 1,000 of his best and most active Galwegians to Chester for his expedition against the Welsh. The following year King John granted him an enormous tract of land in Antrim and Derry consisting of 140 knights' fees. He was one of 16 laymen by whose counsel King John claimed to have granted Magna Carta. He married (3rd) in 1229 ROHESE (or ROSE) DE LACY, daughter of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster, by his lst wife, Lesceline, daughter of Bertram de Verdun, seneschal of Ireland. By one of his wives, he evidently had a son, Thomas, who died without issue before 1234. He also had an illegitimate son, Thomas (living 1296). In 1229 he was summoned to go abroad with King Henry III. ALAN FITZ ROLAND died in 1234, and was buried at Dundrennan Abbey in Galloway. In 1236 his widow's father, Hugh de Lacy, created an insurrection in Galloway at the succession of Alan's estates. She was living in 1237. [Note: The identity of Alan Fitz Roland';s first wife is proven by a suit dated 1214 regarding Kippax, co. York, in which Alan is stated to have married a sister of Richard [recte Roger], father of John [de Lacy] [constable] of Chester. The year previously in 1213, an unnamed daughter of Alan died as a hostage in the custody of Robert Fitz Roger, of Warkworth, co. Northumberland. It was customary in this period to place foreign born hostages with a near relative in England. Robert Fitz Roger in question was the maternal uncle of Alan of Galloway's first wife, and thus would have been closely related to Alan's child]. References: K. J. Stringer, Medieval Scotland: 140-155 (not seen). Liber Cartarum Sancte Crucis (Bannatyne Club): 19-20 (not seen). Chron. De Mailros (Bannatyne Club): 108 (not seen). Mathew Paris, Chron. Mag., 3: 304 (not seen). M. Paris, 5: 341. J. Stevenson, ed., Chronicon de Lanercost (Maitland Club) (1839): 40 (not seen) George Ormerod, Hist. of the County Palatine of Chester, 1 (1819): 509-510 (Alan and his first wife were possibly married in 1200, when her brother, Roger de Lacy, was employed for safe conduct of the King of Scotland to the court of England. Ormerod identifies a sister Alice for Roger but doesn't provide her marital history. Quite possibly Alice was the 1st wife of Alan Fitz Roland). Cal. Charter Rolls, 1 (1895): 156. Arch. & Hist. Coll. relating to Ayrshire & Galloway, 10 (1899): 64. Scots Peerage, 4 (1907): 139-143. James Wilson, ed., Register of the Priory of St. Bees (Surtees Soc., vol. 126) (1915): viii-xi, 71-72, 97-98 ("A great man in his day, who treated with King John in apparent independence of his own sovereignity"). Trans. Dumfriesshire & Galloway Nat. Hist. and Antiq. Soc., 3rd ser., 5 (1916-18): 258-264; 36 (1959): 115-122; 49 (1972): 49-55. C.P., 6 (1926): 646-647 (sub Huntingdon). VCH Northampton, 4 (1937): 3. Curia Regis Rolls, 7 (1935): 85-86 (suit by Alan of Galloway re. Kippax, co. York which he had in marriage with the aunt of John [de Lacy], constable of Chester). Paget (1957), 132:1 (sub Clavering); 311: 1 (sub Lacy, Earl of Lincoln). C.P., 12 Part 2 (1959): 168-171. R.C. Reid, ed., Wigtownshire Charters (Scottish Hist. Soc.) (1960): xxxix. I. J. Sanders, English Baronies (1960): 118-119. Art Cosgrave, ed., New Hist. of Ireland, 2 (1987): 19. Alan O. Anderson, Early Sources of Scottish History, 2 (1990): 492-495. K. J. Stringer, ed., Essays on the Nobility of Medieval Scotland (19__): 44-61 ("a great leader whose naval exploits on the western seaboard of Scotland won him respect in contemporary Norse circles"). Gerard J. Brault, ed., Rolls of Arms, Edward 1 (1272-1307), 2 (1997): 188 (Galloway arms: Azure, a lion rampant argent crowned or, displayed in an escutcheon in the sinister canton of the arms of Hugh de Balliol (died 1271), of Bywell, co. Northumberland). Regards, Curt
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Title: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publicatio n: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
Title: Ordinance Index (R) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publicatio n: 1993 02 28 Edition
Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Weber, J im Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2006. Updated frequently, with many sources
Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr , 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 139-1, 3-3
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, a dditions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 114a-27, 94-27 Text: father of Helen
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, b y G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: XII/2:934
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Kevin Badford, 23 Se p 2005
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Douglas Richardson, 1 2 Sep 2002
Title: Magna Carta Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson, 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co. Page: 6 85 Text: no date, 1st wife
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