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 kingharry
 by Harrison Thomas LaTour
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Francois Savoie 198 SmartMatches
Birth:1621 in MARTAIZE, LOUDUN, VIENNE, FRANCE/Loudun, France
Death:1678
Sex:M
Father:Tomaso Francesco, Prince de Savoy-Carignan b. 21 Dec 1596 in TORINO, TORINO, ITALY
Mother:Marie Soissons de Bourbon, Princess of Conde b. 1603 in TORINO, TORINO, ITALY
  
LDS Confirmation: (3859-SJ)
Reference: 253

Spouses & Children 
Catherine Le Jeune (Wife) b. 1633 in PORT ROYAL, ACADIE, NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA
Marriage: 1651
Children: 
  1. DescendantsAndree-Marguerite Savoie b. 1667
  2. DescendantsFrancoise Savoie b. 1653 in MARTAIZE, LOUDUN, VIENNE, FRANCE/Loudun, France
  3. DescendantsGermain I Savoie b. 1654 in ANNAPOLIS ROYAL, PORT ROYAL, ACADIE, NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA
  4. Catherine Savoie b. 1656
  5. Marie Savoie b. 1657
  6. Jeanne Savoie b. 1658
  7. Francois Savoie b. 1663
  8. Barnabe Savoie b. 1665
  9. Marie Savoie b. 1669
 
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Science & the shroud

Microbiology meets archaeology in a renewed quest for answers
High magnification close-up of a shroud fiber (108k)


Hoax or holy grail? The argument about the Shroud of Turin spans centuries.
No one has proven it is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth, but its
haunting image of a man's wounded body is proof enough for true believers.

Researchers from the Health Science Center now appear to have the clue to
resolve a scientific contradiction: If the shroud is authentic, why does
radiocarbon dating indicate that the cloth is no more than about 700 years
old?

The shroud is unquestionably old. Its history is known from the year 1357,
when it surfaced in the tiny village of Lirey, France. Until recent reports
from San Antonio, most of the scientific world accepted the findings of
carbon dating carried out in 1988. The results said the shroud dated back to
1260-1390, and thus is much too new to be Jesus' burial linen.

Now the date and other shroud controversies are under intense scrutiny
because of discoveries by a team led by Leoncio A. Garza-Valdes, MD, adjunct
professor of microbiology, and Stephen J. Mattingly, PhD, professor of
microbiology. Dr. Garza is a pediatrician from San Antonio, and an
archaeologist noted for expertise in pre-Columbian artifacts. Dr. Mattingly,
president of the Texas branch of the American Society for Microbiology, is
widely respected for his research on group B streptococci and neonatal
disease.

After months examining microscopic samples, the team concluded in January
that the Shroud of Turin is centuries older than its carbon date. Dr. Garza
said the shroud's fibers are coated with bacteria and fungi that have grown
for centuries. Carbon dating, he said, had sampled the contaminants as well
as the fibers' cellulose.

Such startling findings ordinarily would be published in a scientific
journal, but the team has waited. The shroud's ultimate custodian, the
Catholic Church, has declined to designate the San Antonio fibers as an
official sample. Dr. Garza received them in Turin, Italy, in 1993 from
Giovanni Riggi di Numana, who took the official shroud samples for the
carbon dating in the '80s.

Dr. Garza's hypothesis, however, transcends the shroud, and it is being
taken seriously by archaeologists, microbiologists, and even those most
closely associated with carbon dating.

"This is not a crazy idea," said Harry E. Gove, PhD, co-inventor of the use
of accelerator mass spectrometry for carbon dating. Dr. Gove is professor
emeritus of physics at the University of Rochester in New York.

"A swing of 1,000 years would be a big change, but it's not wildly out of
the question, and the issue needs to be resolved," he said.

Toward that end, the University of Arizona in Tucson is preparing carbon
dating procedures to test the hypothesis on an ibis bird mummy that
stylistically would date back to about 330-30 BC. Physicists will sample
collagen from bone, which is relatively unaffected by bacteria and fungi,
and compare its date to wrappings from the mummy. Textiles contain large
quantities of bacteria and fungi because they have much more surface area by
volume than a smooth object of similar size, therefore the mummy wrappings
are important for comparison.

Two samples of mummy wrapping will be tested; one that is cleansed of
contaminants with conventional methods, and another sample cleansed with a
method developed by Drs. Garza and Mattingly. Dr. Garza has said the
conventional method fails to remove the bacteria and fungi.

"I'm a bit skeptical, but I don't want to dismiss the theory. It is possible
that contaminants could throw off the dates somewhat, but by how much?" said
Douglas J. Donahue, PhD, physics professor at the University of Arizona and
principal investigator at the National Science Foundation/Arizona's
Accelerator Mass Spectrometry Laboratories, where the tests are planned in
the coming months. The site performed parts of the 1988 carbon dating of the
shroud.

The unfolding events have engrossed museum curators, antiquities dealers,
and scholars.

"This could be a great breakthrough in understanding the ancient world,"
said A. Rosalie David, PhD, keeper of Egyptology at the Manchester Museum in
England.

"If the theory is correct, and there seems to be a lot of evidence it is,
this would be a spot check to tell if artifacts in museums or for sale on
the market are genuine or fakes," Dr. David said. She has joined the
project, and supplied samples from a museum mummy to the Arizona
laboratories.

The San Antonio discovery goes back to the '80s when Dr. Garza discovered
"biogenic varnishes" on an ancient Mayan carved jade called the Itzamna Tun.
The artifact had been labeled a fake by two art connoisseurs in New York, he
said. Carbon dating failed to come close to the carved stone's true age, and
Dr. Garza identified masses of varnish that prevented accurate dating, thus
upholding the jade's authenticity. The varnishes, he learned, are a
plastic-like coating that is a byproduct of bacteria and fungi. In the
Itzamna Tun's case, this bioplastic coating threw off the carbon date of
ancient blood on the artifact by about 600 years.

Could this be true of the Shroud of Turin?

In May 1993, Dr. Garza traveled to Turin, and examined a shroud sample with
the approval of Catholic authorities. "As soon as I looked at a segment in
the microscope, I knew it was heavily contaminated," Dr. Garza said. "I knew
that what had been radiocarbon dated was a mixture of linen and the bacteria
and fungi and bioplastic coating that had grown on the fibers for centuries.
We had not dated the linen itself."

Dr. Garza returned to San Antonio with a few threads from the lower right
corner of the shroud. He enlisted Dr. Mattingly. Together they applied the
principles of microbiology to the evaluation of several archaeological
specimens. "Archaeomicrobiology," as they describe their discipline, had
never been used before on the shroud or almost any other artifact.

At the Health Science Center and elsewhere, they examined samples using
optical and electron microscopes and sophisticated viewing techniques, and
photographed them under high magnification using special dyes and lighting.
The researchers delicately sliced fibers to expose cross-sections of the
bioplastic coating, and are working with an enzyme process to cleanse
contaminated samples.

Because Egyptian mummies appear to have the same contamination on their
wrappings, Egyptologists such as Dr. David are eager to learn whether the
mummies are correctly dated. The Manchester Museum, for example, has
supplied samples from its mysterious mummy No. 1770 for carbon testing using
the Garza-Mattingly cleansing technique. British experts cannot fully
explain why carbon dating of No. 1770's wrappings indicate they are 1,000
years younger than the bones.

Until now, archeologists attributed the discrepancy to the ancient Egyptians
themselves. "The suggestion was that the body was found in a very damaged
condition perhaps 500 years after it was first wrapped. The thinking is that
the embalmers were uncertain who this was, but the spot where the mummy was
found indicated it might be somebody of importance so they re-wrapped it to
give it another chance at eternity. And that is where it was left until this
discovery by Dr. Garza," she said.

In his discoveries about Mayan artifacts, Dr. Garza challenged orthodox
thinking and relentlessly pursued his theory, which yielded significant
results, said a longtime associate, George E. Harlow, PhD, curator of
minerals and gems at the American Museum of Natural History in New York.
"Many of us in science wander down a low-energy trough, studying the things
we want to study, but Dr. Garza doesn't know or regard conventional wisdom
very highly so it is stimulating to find out what he is doing. He deserves
much credit for his willingness to challenge authority, pursue
investigations and try to be objective."

Practicing science with the Shroud of Turin puts Drs. Garza and Mattingly in
a charged atmosphere. Moving the shroud's origin back several centuries
would place it closer to the time of Jesus' death, and certainly energize
debate about whether the cloth is a hoax or holy grail.

Adding to the atmosphere, a third member of their team has identified a part
of the shroud's markings as that of blood from a human male. No one has
conclusively determined how the markings got on the linen, but they appear
in bas relief in a perfect negative image. Experts have entertained theories
that the markings came from paint, scorching, or accelerated aging. Victor
V. Tryon, PhD, assistant professor in microbiology and director of the
university's Center for Advanced DNA Technologies, examined the DNA of one
so-called "blood glob" from two separate microscopic shroud samples. He
reported isolating signals from three different human genes by employing
polymerase chain reaction, which can detect pieces of double-stranded DNA.

Amid the debate, Drs. Garza and Mattingly cannot escape the fundamental
question of whether they have real shroud fibers. A transfer of papal
authority in Turin and a turn of events three years ago there further cloud
the issue.

Turin's Cardinal Giovanni Saldarini has publicly questioned the authenticity
of the sample. On Italian television in January, he was quoted as saying:
"There is no certainty that the material belongs to the shroud so that the
Holy See and the custodian declare that they cannot recognize the results of
the claimed experiments."

Cardinal Saldarini rejected Dr. Garza's request in April 1993 to perform
tests on shroud fibers. But his refusal came days after Dr. Garza had
arrived in Turin, and obtained a sample that remained from the 1988 cutting
for radiocarbon dating. He received the sample from Riggi, a scientist
appointed by Saldarini's predecessor, Cardinal Anastasio Ballestrero, to do
the cutting. Ballestrero retired in 1990.

Where the new testing and other events will lead is uncertain, but few
people deny the work of the Health Science Center team has expanded the
scope of microbiology. In the process, the researchers have developed
methods that promise to enhance the accuracy of radiocarbon dating. They
also have given archaeologists a new tool to evaluate antiquities. And
perhaps they have even opened a path that leads to an explanation of the
enduring mysteries of the Shroud of Turin.

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Notes for Frantois Savoie
La Tour-Sylvestre Family Genealogy

Notes for Frantois Savoie


WFT 1:5326 Source for all information about this family.

WFT1:5326 Notes: After 1755, most of Francois and Catherine Lejeune's
descendants were exiled along the Atlantic seaboard. Six of great-grandsons came
to Louisiana. About 1765 with shipload of Acadia refugees from Halifax. Settled
along Mississippi in St. James.

WFT1:5326 Notes: Frantois Savois possibly came from Poiton, France or Duchy of
Savoy (N. Italy). Arrived in Acadie in 1641 or 1642. Appears (with wife and 9
children) in census of 1671. Probably married Catherine in 1651 or 1652. His
name found at University St. Anne, Pointe de lglise, Nova Scotia. Frantois
worked 6 acres, had 4 head of cattle and lived near mouth of river at Port
Royal, Acadie. Some children named in census of Port Royal 1678. Assumed
Frantois and Catherine had died before at about about 58 and 46.

Acadian Roots CD: S-Ledet Gedcom: Had seventeen children, arrived in Acadia in
1643. Adds AndrTe Savoie (F) n.d. as first child listed.



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  1. WFT 1:5326 Source for all information about this family.

    WFT1:5326 Notes: “After 1755, most of Francois and Catherine Lejeune’s descendants were exiled along the Atlantic seaboard. Six of great-grandsons came to Louisiana. About 1765 with shipload of Acadi a refugees from Halifax. Settled along Mississippi in St. James.”

    WFT1:5326 Notes: “François Savois possibly came from Poiton, France or Duchy of Savoy (N. Italy). Arrived in Acadie in 1641 or 1642. Appears (with wife and 9 children) in census of 1671. Probably marr ied Catherine in 1651 or 1652. His name found at University St. Anne, Pointe de l’Église, Nova Scotia. François worked 6 acres, had 4 head of cattle and lived near mouth of river at Port Royal, Acadie. Some children named in census of Port Royal 1678. Assumed François and Catherine had died before at about about 58 and 46.”

    Acadian Roots CD: S-Ledet Gedcom: Had seventeen children, arrived in Acadia in 1643. Adds Andrée Savoie (F) n.d. as first child listed.
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