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 Bill Polk - Direct Ancestry
 by Bill Polk
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Charles Pollok 1 2 3 4 511 SmartMatches
Birth:About. 1420 in Scotland 2
Death:About. 1508 in Scotland 1
Sex:M
Father:
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Spouses & Children 
Margaret Stewart, Dau Thomas Stewart\I. Stewart (Wife) b. After. 1440 in Scotland, probably
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Marriage: BEF. 1470 in Scotland
Children: 
  1. DescendantsDavid Pollok, Son Of Charles Pollok b. Before. 1470 in Scotland
 
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Sources 
  1. Title: A General Description of the Shire of Renfrew Including An Account of the Noble and Ancient Families, etc.
    Author: Originally published by George Crawfurd 1710, continued by George Robertson, 1818
    Publication: 1710 edition, pub. by James Watson, Edinburgh; 1818 continuation, printed in Paisley, Scotland by J. Neilson, sold by H. Crichton, Bookseller, and published by John Smith and Son of Glasgow, Archibal
    d Constable & Co., Edinburgh, and Rest Fenner, LondonMedia: Book
    Page: pp. 38 and 290:
    Text: Pg. 38 shows "Charles Pollock of that-ilk, his successor, obtained a Charter of his lands of Pollock, from Robert Lord Maxwel, an. 1486." His successor (see immediately above), refers to John Pollock
    ). Pg. 290 shows "Charles Pollok, and of this date (28th July 1486), John Maxwell, Lord of the Mearns, granted a charter of the lands of Over Pollok to the said Charles, designing him his kinsman, and to Margaret Stewart his wife, daughter of the Laird of Minto."
  2. Title: Pogue/Pollock/Polk Genealogy As Mirrored In History
    Author: Lloyd Welch Pogue
    Publication: Gateway Press, Inc., 1001 N. Calvert St., Baltimore, MD., 1990
    Call Number: Lib. Congress Card Cat. #84-73111; ISBN 0-9622395-0-X
    Media: Book
    Page: pg. xxiii
  3. Title: Pedigree of the Pollok or Polk Family From Fulbert the Saxon (A. D. 1075) to the Present Time
    Author: Miss Mary Winder Garrett of Williamsburg, VA.
    Publication: The American Historical Magazine,The University Press, 208 N. College St., Nashville, TN. April 1896 issue begins the series and concludes with Vol. 4, 1899
    Media: Magazine
    Page: October 1897 issue, Vol. II, No. 4, pg. 378:
    Text: Mary Winder Garrett's genealogy seems to deviate somewhat at this point. Referring to John De Pollok (the John De Pollok of the Charter dated December 12, 1439), she states, "John de Pollok had a son
    , named Robert de Pollok, who received from King James II, the great land grant in Ireland." She then goes on, "The following notes are mostly taken from a written communication to W. R. Polk, from Mrs. W. H. Polk, wife of W. H. Polk, brother of ex-President Polk. John de Pollok last mentioned, had another son besides his oldest son Charles, named Robert de Pollok. Robert de Pollok, became Sir Robert de Pollok of Ireland, who received the grant from King James II. in Ireland. This Sir Robert's oldest son, Sir John, inherited the hereditary estate in old Scotland." Robertson (in his continuation of Crawfurd's work) shows that Charles Pollok, son of John De Pollok, had two sons, John, the eldest, and David. No mention is made of a Robert at this point in the lineage. "Polk Family and Kinsmen" adds to the confusion at this point by also stating that John De Pollok had a son names Charles and another by the name of Robert De Pollok who became Sir Robert de Pollok of Ireland and received the great land grant of "vetus Scotia" or "New Scotland," as Ireland was then called. Polk Family and Kinsmen then goes on and states "This Sir Robert's eldest son, Sir John, inherited the hereditary estates in Old Scotland. Sir Robert's younger son, Robert, inherited the estates in Ireland, and became Sir Robert." Continuing, the text reads, "Sir Robert De Pollok (2nd) of Ireland, in herited the estates in Ireland (where the name to this day is often spelled and pronounced P-o-l-k, as one syllable, by the natives) and whose American descendants, the Polks, still preserve the lineal memorial of their noble and knightly ancestors." If one follows this line, then the Polks were in Ireland in or about 1440. This may be so, and if so, constitutes another earlier Irish branch.
  4. Note: Miss Mary Winder Garrett of Williamsburg, VA., "Pedigree of the Pollok or Polk Family From Fulbert the Saxon (A. D. 1075) to the Presend Time," The American Historical Magazine,The University Press, 2 08 N. College St., Nashville, TN. April 1896 issue begins the series and concludes with Vol. 4, 1899: October 1897 issue, Vol. II, No. 4, pg. 378:, Mary Winder Garrett's genealogy seems to deviate somewhat at this point. Referring to John De Pollok (the John De Pollok of the Charter dated December 12, 1439), she states, "John de Pollok had a son, named Robert de Pollok, who received from King James II, the great land grant in Ireland." She then goes on, "The following notes are mostly taken from a written communication to W. R. Polk, from Mrs. W. H. Polk, wife of W. H. Polk, brother of ex-President Polk. John de Pollok last mentioned, had another son besides his oldest son Charles, named Robert de Pollok. Robert de Pollok, became Sir Robert de Pollok of Ireland, who received the grant from King James II. in Ireland. This Sir Robert's oldest son, Sir John, inherited the hereditary estate in old Scotland." Robertson (in his continuation of Crawfurd's work) shows that Charles Pollok, son of John De Pollok, had two sons, John, the eldest, and David. No mention is made of a Robert at this point in the lineage. "Polk Family and Kinsmen" adds to the confusion at this point by also stating that John De Pollok had a son names Charles and another by the name of Robert De Pollok who became Sir Robert de Pollok of Ireland and received the great land grant of "vetus Scotia" or "New Scotland," as Ireland was then called. Polk Family and Kinsmen then goes on and states "This Sir Robert's eldest son, Sir John, inherited the hereditary estates in Old Scotland. Sir Robert's younger son, Robert, inherited the estates in Ireland, and became Sir Robert." Continuing, the text reads, "Sir Robert De Pollok (2nd) of Ireland, in herited the estates in Ireland (where the name to this day is often spelled and pronounced P-o-l-k, as one syllable, by the natives) and whose American descendants, the Polks, still preserve the lineal memorial of their noble and knightly ancestors." If one follows this line, then the Polks were in Ireland in or about 1440. This may be so, and if so, constitutes another (earlier) Irish branch of the Pollok family. This seems doubtful since on pg. 379 of the pedigree, Garrett brings the Pollok line back into the same timeframe and lineage as the other sources, that is, Burke's Peerage and Burke's Presidential Families. It may be that Garrett became confused with the similar names and jumped generations, because she shows Sir Robert Pollok, son of John Pollok, receiving land in 1440, his son the 2nd Sir Robert Pollok inheriting this land, and then his son Thomas Pollok, brother of Robert Bruce Pollok, inheriting the Irish estates after 1638. The timeframe, about 200 years, makes this an impossible scenario. Conclusion reached is that Garrett mixed up the names and years (as, apparently, did W. H. Polk in his genealogy).
  5. Title: The Peerage of Scotland
    Author: John Phillip Wood
    Publication: 1813, George Ramsay & Co., Edinburgh; reprint 1993 by Oldbuck Press, Inc.
    Call Number: ISBN 1-56869-030-4
    Media: Book
    Page: pg. 212, STUART LORD BLANTYRE
    Text: "Sir Thomas Stewart, third son of Sir William Stewart of Dalswinton and Garlies ..... He married Isabel, eldest daughter and coheir of Walter Stewart of Arthurly, of the Castlemilk family, .....leavin
    g issue ....... 3. Margaret, married to Charles Pollock of Pollock."
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SmartMatches 
Individuals from other files that are believed to be the same person:
Charles Pollok of Chesebro' Genealogy@Gen Circles
Charles Pollok of Melting Pot
Charles Pollok of Meri's Family Tree
Charles Pollok of Family of Legends & The Unknown
Charles Pollok of Haas-Victoria
Charles Pollok of Haas-Victoria
Charles Pollok of Ancestors of Martha Cross Mordecai
Charles Pollok of 2007gedcom
Charles Pollok , of Pollok of POLK Family Annex
Charles Pollok of Pennys Roots
Charles Pollok of Branum-Gardner Family

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