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Dear Mary,

Nothing definitive is known on Alice Martin Clark Bishop's parents. The latest theory offered on family tree maker is that she was born in Plymouth, Devonshire, England, I believe, the child of Francis Martin and Prudence Deacon Martin, but this has not been definitely established. What can safely be stated is that Alice IS NOT, I repeat IS NOT a descendant of the Martins of the Mayflower, this is a myth that has been mentioned in genealogies for some time. At this time there are NO PROVEN descendant of Christopher Martin of the Mayflower. See Caleb Johnson's excellent website where he discusses this issue. He concludes there may have been descendants through a son, but the information available is too slim to make a conclusion that way. No proof has been given of a daughter leaving descendants.

By the way, Alice was not hanged as a witch, but as a murdereress. You can find more of Alice's descendants (I believe I am one but the genealogy in my line needs better documentation, but I will provide it at the end of the message) on Family Tree Maker.com by entering her name, several descendants have made enteries under Martin, Bishop, Clarke, etc. If you go the Ancestor Name of Family tree and enter the name there instead of directly in the Message boards for those names (which are rather common) you will find enteries much faster. Also if you enter black sheep in the family you will find a site where genealogist have made enteries on the black sheeps in their familes. There is a book, I believe is called Shades of Gray where Alice is mentioned under murder in Chapter 5.

My Alice Martin Clark Bishop ancestry is suspected as follows:

Richard Bishop=Alice Martin Clark
Damaris Bishop=William Sutton
Daniel Sutton=Patience Martin
Zachariah/Zacharias Sutton=?
Suviah Sophia Sutton=Nathaniel Hayden
Nathaniel Hayden, Jr.=Abigail Osborne
Phebe Hayden=Lewis Ketcham
Rhoda Ketcham=Peter Van Nest
Luther Van Nest=Martha Douglas
Mary Elizabeth Van Nest=Elmer Ellsworth Partlow
Curtis Luther Partlow=Elizabeth Geneva Tresler
Janet Lousise Partlow=Thomas Lee Woodward
Thomas Lee Woodward, Jr.

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